Auntie Ziona Against Auntie Simone

October 28, 2008

No Shoin, should we invite Azmoned as well?!

Filed under: Azmoned, kletzmar, Mikey, Mony Gripstein, shoplifting, Tony Greenstein, tRance — auntieziona @ 7:17 pm


It looks like my Shabbat is turning into a groice cross-cultural event, now that Auntie Maria is coming from South America and Mary’le is coming from Italy.

With Mony’le, tRancie’le and Miki’le in attendance, I hope Auntie Maria is not going to treat them like the three stooges again, and that we can all just have a nice gesellige meal together and unite as brother and sisters beneath the wings of Auntie Ziona.

But I want to have a gefilthe with Azmoned!! I am thinking about inviting him to this event. Perhaps he will bring his clarinet and play some kleine kletzmar for us.

Auntie Maria’s comment (see below) makes me start to see that my Mony’le has no chance against this sheigetz, Azmoned.

I may have to beg for Azmoned’s mercy for my Mony on Friday night!

Azmoned, I’ll say, you know about my Monyle.. he is a bit of a meshige… but why can’t you just ignore him the way the other Palestinian activists do?!

Auntie Maria’s guest post

Tony Greenstein writes:

“A few paragraphs previously Atzmon informs us that:
Jews are not necessarily Zionists. They can also be humanists, universalists, ordinary human beings… “

As usual, Greenstein fails to quote Atzmon’s sentence in full.

Here is the Atzmon quote:

“Jews are not necessarily Zionists. They can also be humanists, universalists, ordinary human beings,plumbers, musicians, shopkeepers and even shoplifters.”

Greenstein dropped: “plumbers, musicians, shopkeepers and even shoplifters.”

I guess we all know why.

As far as we are aware, Greenstein is not exactly a ‘plumber’, not a musician either, and not a shopkeeper.

But what about ‘shoplifting’? …

We have a very good reason to believe that Greenstein interprets Atzmon’s writing about the tribal Jew as applying to one particular Tony.

It is devastating for Greenstein, considering the fact that Atzmon’s Credit Crunch paper is now posted on more than 9.000 sites.

However, Atzmon continues:

“The Zionists amongst the Jews are very easy to trace. They always operate politically as Jews. They run Jewish lobbies, think tanks and pressure groups. For that matter, Jewish American Committee (JAC), AIPAC, Jews For Peace and Anti Zionist Jews are all different forms of Jewish tribal national politics.”

Indeed, Tony Greenstein and Roland Rance “operate politically as Jews” and run “pressure groups”.

The conclusion is very clear:

Greenstein is overwhelmed by Atzmon’s coherence. He always drops the bits that refers to him and expose him as a devoted Zionist.

Sadly enough, Greenstein lacks the talent to confront Atzmon.

All he can do is lie and deceive.

What would you expect of a man with such an enormous record of Spent Convictions ….:)

Posted by Auntie Maria to Auntie Ziona Against Auntie Simone at 28 October 2008 13:35

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22 Comments »

  1. Oy vey. this is too cruel…

    Comment by Anonymous — October 29, 2008 @ 7:20 am

  2. Auntie why did you let the shmuck spend all his convictions? This is a credit crunch, he should have saved them!

    Comment by Anonymous — October 29, 2008 @ 8:58 am

  3. Hey folks, I need to go out now to take my dog Roland Rance for a walk in the park before he messes the floor.

    — In loving affection for Comrade Stalin, Tony Greenstein, shoplifter for the proletariat

    Comment by Anonymous — October 29, 2008 @ 11:07 am

  4. I’m a bit worried… my “spy” told me that Mikey is planning on bringing “Israeli Food”, which he then went on to stress was Hummus and Felafel. I’m starting to wonder if it was the right idea to accept this invitation. I’ll be accused of having “drinkies” with the enemy/ies.

    I will only go if you are sure to invite Deborah, with her tree or not.

    Oh… sadly, it doesn’t seem like Atzmon can come, something about playing in the Vaterland that night (ahahah, just fooling, he actually is really playing in Germany). Unless we can have him to an internet visit to us during the set break or something, I don’t believe he can join in the merrymaking.

    Comment by mary — October 29, 2008 @ 11:58 am

  5. Mary, if I were you, I would bring more than a padded helmet for your daughter. You don’t want her being reasonably chastised for volunteering and trying to bring a tea tray to the guests.

    As published in a newspaper…”The Argus” of Brighton
    This assault was hardly ‘reasonable chastising’
    From the The Argus, first published Friday 22nd Dec 2006.

    I was saddened and angered by the letter from Tony Greenstein and 18 others (December 20) which sought to suggest the magician’s assault on my autistic son was somehow, in his words, “reasonable chastisement”.

    Moreover, I would dispute his suggestion that the police did not regard the assault as “particularly serious”. He also accused a witness – Cold Feet actress Fay Ripley – of “self-publicising”.

    These comments suggest such incidents should not be highlighted publicly.

    Both my wife and myself were literally only four feet away from our eight-year-old son who, despite having a broken arm, volunteered to help Lynn Thomas.

    Thomas swung his arm at full length and hit my son full around the face, after which his hearing was impaired for several days.

    He did this in front of a large crowd at the Queens Park Fete.

    There was no “serious provocation”

    as he alleged and several witnesses, who were so shocked they came forward unasked, will confirm this.

    I understand a caution was issued only because Lynn Thomas immediately confessed to the assault and had no previous convictions.

    In no way did the police officer seek to lessen the seriousness of the offence, as Mr Greenstein suggests.

    I am grateful to Fay Ripley from Cold Feet for informing The Argus of this incident. As a highly successful actress already, she did not need any further publicity. Instead, she acted public-spiritedly, as a witness to a shocking assault.

    I believe Lynn Thomas should seek another line of work if he is unable to control his temper.

    John O’Riordan, Hurstpierpoint

    Archive Home

    From the The Argus
    http://www.theargus.co.uk
    © Newsquest Media Group 2006

    Comment by woody and buzz — October 29, 2008 @ 1:31 pm

  6. This is what Tony actually said… “As parents and carers we do not support violence against or smacking of children but the law still allows what is euphemistically called “reasonable chastisement”.”

    Would you let your little one in the same room with someone like that?

    We should have a little more perspective
    From the The Argus, first published Wednesday 20th Dec 2006.

    With reference to the article “Magician slapped autistic boy’s face” (The Argus, December 15), Lynn Thomas has performed as a magician at the Unemployed Centre’s Christmas party for children of the unemployed for more than 20 years. There has not been a single complaint about him and he has brought pleasure to literally thousands of children.

    While we understand there were special circumstances and in no way condone what happened, we nevertheless believe the incident should be seen in perspective.

    The fact the police issued a caution rather than going to court suggests the offence was not treated as particularly serious and we refute the self-publicising comments and actions of Cold Feet actress Fay Ripley that Lynn Thomas is “dangerous”.

    As parents and carers we do not support violence against or smacking of children but the law still allows what is euphemistically called “reasonable chastisement”.

    We do not believe someone’s career should be destroyed because of one foolish incident.

    Tony Greenstein and 18 others, Unemployed Workers Centre, Crestway Parade, Hollingdean

    Archive Home

    From the The Argus
    http://www.theargus.co.uk
    © Newsquest Media Group 2006

    Comment by woody and buzz — October 29, 2008 @ 1:36 pm

  7. ah, I get it, Tony is defending him cos now after assaulting a boy, the magician is unemployed. It all makes sense.

    Magician slapped autistic boy
    From the The Argus, first published Friday 15th Dec 2006.

    Children’s entertainer The Great Velcro is exposed today as a man with a police caution for slapping an autistic boy in the face.

    The magician, real name Lynn Thomas, has continued to perform in schools and nurseries despite being cautioned for common assault this summer.

    He was publicly shamed by Cold Feet actress Fay Ripley yesterday, after she discovered he had performed at her two-year-old nephew’s nursery in Brighton.

    Mrs Ripley said: “People should know what he is like, he is dangerous. He shouldn’t be allowed near children.”

    The television star, who lives in London, saw Mr Thomas slap a nine-year-old autistic boy while she was visiting her sister in Brighton in August.

    The magician lost his temper and lashed out at the child who was helping him with his act as an audience volunteer.

    Mr Thomas is now facing up to the consequences of that one lapse during the show despite never being in trouble with the police before during his 30-year career.

    His violence stunned a crowd of more than 20 children and parents at the show, which was supposed to be the highlight of the Queens Park Summer Fete.

    Mrs Ripley, who was watching with her family, said: “I just could not believe it. He had this mad look in his eyes. The boy had thrown something at him by mistake which was supposed to be part of the act but it was an unbelievable reaction.”

    Mr Thomas, 63, last night defended himself, saying the incident had happened under severe provocation and was the only blemish in a 30 year career.

    He said: “I always insist on children being supervised by adults at my show and this boy wasn’t. He shouldn’t have been on stage. He said things he should not have said.”

    The force of the blow made the boy’s ear and face swell and turn red. The Great Velcro was arrested and issued with a police caution for common assault.

    Mrs Ripley said she was appalled yesterday when she found out the entertainer was still working in Sussex.

    Her sister Elise, who lives in Queens Park, spotted him performing while dropping off her toddler at Tarnerland Nursery School in Sussex Street, Brighton.

    She said: “I thought I would never see him again, I could not believe he was still working after what had happened.”

    Tarnerland, a council operated school, said it had no idea about the incident when it booked Mr Thomas.

    Headteacher Frankie Stanton said: “If we had known we would never have allowed him near the children.”

    She said the school had carried out a Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) check on the entertainer but it had not shown the caution. Ms Stanton has told Mr Thomas he would not be welcome at the school again.

    Mr Thomas said: “The incident was an utter nightmare but I’ve learned my lesson. It will never happen again.”

    He offered an apology to the boy and his family.

    Brighton and Hove City Council said schools were told it was their duty to conduct security checks on people working with children.

    A spokesman said: “In the light of this incident we will be re-issuing the guidance to schools. People who have been cautioned for incidents of this sort against children should not be working with children in schools.”

    Sussex Police said cautions showed up on full CRB checks but not always on the “List 99” versions usually used by schools.

    Duncan Trillo, who runs the website http://www.childrens partyshows.co.uk, said he had removed Mr Thomas’s advert from his site and would be refunding his money.

    He said: “Children’s safety is absolutely paramount.”

    Mr Thomas, from Kemp Town, has appeared alongside Paul Daniels on television and won the International Brotherhood of Magicians competition in the Eighties. In recent years he has run a magic stall in the Open Market in London Road, Brighton.

    Archive Home

    From the The Argus
    http://www.theargus.co.uk
    © Newsquest Media Group 2006

    Comment by the ungreat velcro — October 29, 2008 @ 1:41 pm

  8. Ah, “reasonable chastisement” is okay then. Was it “reasonable chastisement” which Tony Greenstein meted out to the hapless Mickael Ezra during the launch of the International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network?

    What bothers me is that Greenstein is a father himself, apparently. Could he perhaps tells us how he goes about “reasonably chastising” his own children, or does the list of suitable punishments include slapping them through the face as this “Lynn Thomas” person in the employ of the Brighton Unemployment Center for 20 years did to the autistic boy?

    Or would kicking them in the shins and screaming at the top of his voice into their faces constitute “reasonable chastisement”?

    Perhaps Tony could tell us if he disciplines his own children using the same combo of frequent loss of temper and violence?

    Comment by Concerned activist for children's rights — October 29, 2008 @ 1:50 pm

  9. I hope you invited Trancy… according to Mik’ele, he and Atzy get on gangbustas:
    Greenstein Exposed
    Submitted by MikeyMikey on 10 June, 2008 – 20:58.

    Several times Greenstein has accused me of being a collaborator with Atzmon. Several times I have refuted this allegation. On the other hand, Greenstein’s ideological comrade, Roland Rance, proudly admits (September 2, 2007) that he has gone to hear Atzmon, corresponded with Atzmon and repeatedly met Atzmon.

    – are we supposed to be in shock, or can we call this a homecoming?

    Comment by trance-o-meter — October 29, 2008 @ 1:52 pm

  10. Greenstein’s Contortions
    Submitted by MikeyMikey on 11 June, 2008 – 12:16.

    Tony Greenstein is a blatant hypocrite. He writes friendly emails to Atzmon saying that he would be delighted to hear him play jazz, ignores the fact that his ideological comrade Roland Rance is proud to admit that not only has he heard him play music, he has met Atzmon on several occasions and decides to attack me for his imaginary belief that I collaborated with Atzmon. By doing this Greenstein ignores the fact that I attack him and Roland Rance independently of anything Atzmon does. In fact, as I have already mentioned in this thread, last month I published an article on Harry’s Place ridiculing all of them.

    Greenstein’s fantasy has expanded. He now claims that the reason I researched him was for the benefit of Atzmon! This is particularly idiotic. I have been reading Greenstein since the mid 1980’s when I first came across his shoddy pamphlet complete with numerous distortions: Zionism: anti semitism’s twin in Jewish garb (Brighton Labour Briefing, n.d. circa 1982). Over the years I have collected lots of his equally shoddy output and tracked down,from an even earlier period, some particularly nasty stuff published by BAZO. I first came across the name Gilad Atzmon three or four years ago. I can assure Tony Greenstein that I am not a psychic.

    Comment by love exciting and new — October 29, 2008 @ 1:54 pm

  11. concerned activist: he only does this once he has determined what class they belong to. His standards of what is violent, reasonable, a slight lapse, a loose comment, and all the rest can be best understood in the Rashoman-esque comments in HP where he gives three versions of his “confrontation” with Mike Ezra.

    We need a shrink to understand the guy.

    Comment by woody and buzz — October 29, 2008 @ 1:59 pm

  12. twilight zone time:
    from Tony,
    So there is nothing to withdraw. Roland Rance and I have been the bitterest and most consistent critics of Atzmon, who I’ve never even met. Nor, to the best of my knowledge, has Atzmon. Both of us have been attacked, villified, libelled etc. by him.

    uh… has Atzmon never met himself?

    Comment by woody and buzz — October 29, 2008 @ 2:02 pm

  13. STOP THE PRESSES!
    from the horse’s mouth
    Read it to believe it!

    Time to Call an end to Battering Mikey the Collaborator
    new
    Submitted by tonyg on 14 June, 2008 – 01:35.

    Having battered Mikey around town, so much so that he even claims that what I say is just another form of agreement with him, I think it’s time to call it a day and let him lick his wounds.

    Tony Greenstein

    Comment by woody and buzz — October 29, 2008 @ 2:05 pm

  14. Rumour has it that Ezra is going to turn up at the next IJAN meeting on 6 November with a bunch of peaceful Zionists dressed in lilac smocks, holding flowers and singing Barbara Streisand golden oldies. They are planning to murmur Greenstein’s name again as he marches past with his Red Shirts….. with vid cams ready to record the Jew on Jew bodily assault which may follow.

    This brewing situation has the potential to make even the Settler violence in Palestine look like a walk in the park.

    Comment by Neutral Observer — October 29, 2008 @ 2:36 pm

  15. If Mikey got beaten up by Greenstein simply for ‘murmuring his name”, can you imagine what would happen if Azmoned happened to find himself in the same space as Greenstein, in Greenie’s present unstable and violent state of mind???

    Oy Gevalt und mama mia! Atzmon would have to run for his life.

    Just as well he’s in Germany right now. I don’t think Brighton is a safe place for ex-Jews or even Jews any more 🙂

    Comment by Auntie Shelomi — October 29, 2008 @ 5:28 pm

  16. Utterly shocked about those comments Greenstein made regarding how acceptable he found it to deafen children with one blow to the head.

    But I wouldn’t worry about Atzmon. He’s a BIG guy and methinks puny Greenie would have to stand on his tippie-toes to reach Atzmon’s jaw with his fist.

    However, Greenie knows he can never win by strength alone so he’s likely to try and deliver a swift kick to the crotch. If Atzmon is considering joining Ezra’s little welcoming party for IJAN on Nov 6, he would be well advised to position his saxophone in front of his pelvic area, just in case.

    Comment by Traumatised Socialist Unity regular — October 30, 2008 @ 4:19 am

  17. I’m not shocked about the violent streak, even regarding what is reasonable to apply towards defenseless children who aren’t doing anything as scary and violent as calling someone’s name while sitting in a chair….

    I am rather amused at his comments about how he can’t have violence in the movement or something like that, as he wrote in HP. I think it would be a service to open up those comments here, or to at least let Tony’s versions be available for one and all to see.

    They are really beyond amusing, and in the light of his statement:
    “Having battered Mikey around town, so much so that he even claims that what I say is just another form of agreement with him, I think it’s time to call it a day and let him lick his wounds.

    Tony Greenstein”

    I would say they are nothing less than the admittance that this is his tendency. What a schoolyard bully he is!

    Comment by mary — October 30, 2008 @ 1:58 pm

  18. Nu shoin, Mony says he cannot sit and eat gefilthe at the same table with his Jewish brethren until he clears his name regarding some of the comments made here.

    The incident in which “The Great Velcro” slapped a little boy with a broken arm through the face really happened, yes, and afterwards, my Mony said some things about the “reasonable chastisement” of the young which he has come to regret.

    Nu Shoin, what can we do, he always says thing and then happens to regret them. That is life, or shall I say, that is Mony’le’s life. Mony’le and the magician both discovered that Velcro sticks worse than shiese.

    My Mony’le would love another chance to explain to the world his REAL feelings about the little people who are put on this Earth for us to protect.

    Mony’le loves the young, he himself failed to grow up. He wants to help the little people grow up into proud unemployed Jewish revolutionary socialists like himself.

    For some light weekend reading, he recommends Stalin’s unauthorised biography by Shiesenstein and the following links:
    http://www.healthyconcerts.com/artists/The_Great_Velcro/
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/southern_counties/4393893.stm

    Comment by Auntie Ziona — October 31, 2008 @ 11:31 am

  19. Greetings, Idren…

    I da man who took da rabbit from the clutches of Velcro, heartless white man. I and I, wtach the show where Velcro take she from da hat, and slapping children. It vex I and I.

    I take da rabbit and give liberty for to hop in da open fields round Wiltshire.

    We use Babylonian top hat upside down for litter basket.

    One heart.

    Comment by I and I — October 31, 2008 @ 11:48 am

  20. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/southern_counties/4393893.stm

    Thief makes magic rabbit vanish

    The Great Velcro’s rabbit was stolen as he performed a magic trick
    A magician’s white rabbit disappeared unexpectedly when an audience member jumped onto the stage and stole it.

    The Great Velcro was 30 minutes into a show at Brighton’s Komedia comedy club when a man ran onstage and stole the rabbit and the top hat it was in.

    Members of the audience chased after the man but he managed to get away with the rabbit, called Georgina, after his audacious theft last Thursday evening.

    Sussex Police want anyone who knows where the rabbit is to contact them.

    She won’t get the same attention as she did as a magicians rabbit
    The Great Velcro

    The thief is described as white, aged in his mid to late 20s, 5ft 10ins tall, skinny and with blond hair tied back in a ponytail or dreadlocks.

    He was wearing jeans and a green jacket.

    Comment by I and I — October 31, 2008 @ 12:01 pm

  21. It may have nothing to do with it, but I saw a plump, short guy with glasses running around the hills of Sussex with a chicken, a broken photocopy machine under the other arm and a bunch of toys, screaming “Georgina! I said that I hate RABBIS, not RABBITS! Please try to find your way back to your daddy! I said it was just fine to lash out at a lad with a plaster on his arm while on stage. The lad was not from the working class, so it was OK! But he would never lay a finger on you, Georgina!”

    Comment by woody and buzz — October 31, 2008 @ 1:15 pm

  22. When we scratch beneath the surface, we will see that it is true that the little guy was indeed not part of the working class, but instead was part of Mrs. Bulwarts’ second primary class.

    This makes all the difference.

    Comment by jesse the cowgirl — October 31, 2008 @ 1:18 pm


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